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sspomer
8/23/2017 12:51 PM

For the first time in 2017 Loris Vergier of the Santa Cruz Syndicate has both a 29er V10 and a 27.5-inch-wheeled V10 at a World Cup DH race. We've seen that the course is a little twistier than seasons past with some new turns and berms, but it's interesting to be teased with the idea that Loris may run "smaller" wheels this round.

The Syndicate is either trolling us all (very likely) or Loris has made amends with Loic and they can stop fighting about 29ers now.

I guess we'll see what happens during training tomorrow.

Maybe if you cast your vote, he'll run what you think is best (yeah right!)

Which Santa Cruz V10 Should Loris Vergier Run at Val di Sole?








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sideshow
8/23/2017 1:35 PM

Lets see 29f/27r. That'll set the forum alight.

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AdamO
8/23/2017 2:36 PM

@sideshow Isn't it against the UCI rules? 2 different wheel sizes on one bike?

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Pedal4life
8/23/2017 2:36 PM

Pretty sure that's outside of UCI rules, you can run 2 rims same diameter with different widths but diameter must be the same.

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Mattysville
8/23/2017 2:53 PM

He hasn't had what many would call a "spectacular" season on the 29er I say it's worth a shot at the "small" wheels

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TEAMROBOT
8/23/2017 7:26 PM

The fact that he even brought the bike means he's head tripping. He'll race the little wheels. Confidence is your equipment is more important than the actual performance of said equipment.

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Ride12
8/23/2017 9:48 PM

He's 5'9 - 5'10 max, I would think the 27.5 suit him better.

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bturman
8/23/2017 11:09 PM
TEAMROBOT wrote:

The fact that he even ...more

This. You have to imagine that switching bikes mid-season is risky business at that level.

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Eoin
8/24/2017 12:41 AM
TEAMROBOT wrote:

The fact that he even ...more

bturman wrote:

This. You have to imagine ...more

I agree with the sentiment, but i think he'll race the 29er, if that's the bike he has run all year and in training, switching doesn't make sense.

A bit harsh saying he has had a bad season, he has qualified in the top 5 a bunch of times only to get rained on in finals twice. On dry tracks the 29ers seem to be working sweet for the whole syndicate. They do seem to be a disaster in the wet.

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LLLLL
8/24/2017 12:43 AM
Mattysville wrote:

He hasn't had what many ...more

With gwin and greg on form no one else had a chance for a spectacular season...

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sspomer
8/24/2017 6:53 AM

i guess loris is on the 27.5 in practice right now

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sspomer
8/24/2017 8:16 AM
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kidwoo
8/24/2017 10:09 AM
TEAMROBOT wrote:

The fact that he even ...more

bturman wrote:

This. You have to imagine ...more

OR.......

These last two tracks are what everyone agrees should represent real dh racing tracks, instead of ones where just holding on and pointing in a straight line between groomed berms wins.

So the real dh bike comes back out.

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sspomer
8/24/2017 10:50 AM
kidwoo wrote:

OR.......

These last two ...more

loris brought out the 26?

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kidwoo
8/24/2017 11:38 AM

Nah, just the lesser of two evils apparently.

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DubC
8/24/2017 12:40 PM

Roast Beef, BRO!

Beef badger dont care about wheelsize.

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sspomer
8/24/2017 2:20 PM

here's an audio interview w/ loris from practice today about the decision.

http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Loris-Vergier-on-Why-Hes-Running-27-5-at-Val-di-Sole,1924

(we can't put the audio player in the forum so i had to make this separate feature page)

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That-Norco-Dude
8/25/2017 7:19 AM

I think this is basically proof that 29ers aren't quite "there yet" for dh. If you aren't atleast 6' then back tire/butt clearance is an issue. (Danny and Loris) Can't wait too see what next season brings.

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timlake
8/25/2017 8:15 AM


via https://www.mtb-mag.com/en/video-raw-val-di-sole-dh-wc-bottom-outs-lines-broken-frames/


edit: FWIW - can't find any confirmation on the pic anywhere else so good probability that it can be fake...
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sspomer
8/25/2017 8:32 AM

unnamed sources so chalk it up to #fakenews (LOL), but i'm hearing that minnaar high-sided and the bike got flipped into a wooden post which did the snapping. marshy built up a new frame in 45mins and minnaar quali'd in 2nd, so take that for what it's worth. apparently a big energy drink company who makes legit daily updates has the footage, so we'll see!!! insane out there.

and that mtb-mag feature is like all of vital's ideas rolled into one. RAW + G-Out Project. neat.

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timlake
8/25/2017 8:41 AM

If anything, it's a testament to how gnarly that track is... looking forward to seeing the footage

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sspomer
8/25/2017 8:46 AM
timlake wrote:

If anything, it's a ...more

me too! the fact that greg went back up, unphased for a 2nd in qualifying seems to indicate trust in his bike. would be hard to make a run like that if it was a random failure.

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iceman2058
8/25/2017 8:49 AM

Let's hope this doesn't actually come true - 83% chance of rain at 16h00 tomorrow! Guess what happens at 16h00? That's right, the top dogs drop in...



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timlake
8/25/2017 9:17 AM


Nice work Boris!
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jeff.brines
8/25/2017 10:06 AM
timlake wrote:

If anything, it's a ...more

sspomer wrote:

me too! the fact that greg ...more

Sorry but anytime someone equates what happens in a crash to bike strength would be like saying "tesla's suck" because something major broke when hitting a tree at 40mph.

These aren't bumper bikes. They are race machines. A crash this side of tipping over is not an indications of durability.

As a side note - Minnaar is a beast mentally. Whatever goes on between his ears is something we could all learn from, in every facet of life.

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jeff.brines
8/25/2017 11:07 AM
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Simcik
8/25/2017 11:20 AM

A snapped frame based upon that crash is not a surprise in the least. Between the g-out, highside, and his legs slingshotting that into the tree, what could be expected of it? Glad Greg is OK.

What is even more amazing. Doug put together a new frame in under an hour and Greg's first lap on it was qualifying where he was a C-nt hair off of Gwin in qualifying. MENTAL!

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Maxipedia
8/25/2017 11:30 AM

Now everybody and their cat will have an ”opinion” on carbon frames' and Santa Cruz' durability, totally ignoring the simple fact that no bike is designed to take side impacts from poles. It's as if you would act surprised if you hit you bike with an axe and it breaks or if you hit a concrete wall at full speed and the same happens. The shitstorm already started on Pinkbike and Facebook.

People should worry more about Greg being okay, as he is a damn legend and a very humble, down-to-earth guy, not a damn bike. Of course he covered up the broken frame, he's a professional. Wouldn't anybody else do the same?

And do we even mention Marshy, who built a spare bike in 45 minutes, so that Greg could grab that second spot in the qualies?

Geez Louise...
Mx

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bturman
8/25/2017 11:33 AM

Embedded for ease. Yowsa!



Props to Marshy for busting ass to build up a new bike in record time.

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andrew.macnaughton
8/25/2017 12:54 PM

Man he is lucky he didnt do an acl/tibeal plateau fracture. Thats fucked up

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