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My bike is almost ready to go for the season, but I am missing brakes. A while back I (regretfully) sold my Codes to a friend in need. I was definitely happy with them. I am thinking about getting elixers because they are cheap, and I support avid stuff. My friends keep talking me out of avid, I have heard of a lot of MC issues, and that they are high maintenance. So I am thinking about shimanos. Saints would be ideal, but maybe slx? I could swing getting saints, but they are just so expensive.
Thoughts?
Saints?
slx?
elixer?
code?
Thoughts?
Saints?
slx?
elixer?
code?
Great stopping power too. Or you could hold out for the Primes.
I have always used Avids and at the moment I've got a pair of elixir CR's which I haven't had the chance to test properly yet but they look sweet
My advice would be if you go for avids go for the elixirs and not the code. The codes are heavy and in my experience not that reliable.
Otherwise the saints are ment to be great!
XTs and Saints have a similar feel at the lever, but the Saints have way more power. The power comes on less aggressively than my Codes used to. If you want a ton of power, Saints have it, but still have great modulation. Keep in mind that the Saints have 2 different size pistons, one pair of those pistons being smaller to give more initial modulation rather than just on/off power. Tough to go wrong with any of them. I have run Saints on most of my bikes but ran some XTs on my DH for a bit and they were great. Just some of my observations about the different Shimanos from my experiences.
All of the brakes you are looking into are nice quality and it will be tough to go wrong.
On the other hand, that is the worst advice ever. Better advice would be to suggest that no brake is easier to bleed than shimano, and they are really well thought out. My vote is for saints, or maybe codes if you're gonna go the ebay route.
Let's ride sometime.
Saints provide lots lots loooots of power at minimal fade. Its actualy dangerous for your discs, as the calipaers just want more all the time... they dont fade almost at all. A person who is unfamiliar with the conditions under which a rotor gets cooked, should not buy these. This power (probably thanks to servo wave lever) is just under the perfect control unlike Hayes. Despite the such lots of power, you can easily control it: even a worn tire on a steep muddy descent can be easily kept at the edge of wheel-lock - no probs.
They have issues though... all Shimanos with servowave are terrible to bleed (especially Saints), or you buy bleeding kit or prepare for at least half an hour per brake. Bleeding is really tricky with them.
THOUGH! When Shimanos pick up air in the system, it's not like they get spongy and loose 90% the power. Just pump them up with the lever at the top of every descent and get at least 70% of power back. That basicaly means if you for some reason get air in the system suddenly in the middle of the day or weekend with no chances for bleeding - you can still enjoy riding.
This year I will most likely be running Hope on the Morewood demo fleet.
Guess what? There is also a less expensive The One: it's called The One FR.
It has the same forged caliper as The One, but w. the cast MC from RX.
These are your brakes. Look no further.
http://formulabrakeusa.com/07-collection/the-one-fr/
Saints are not cheap either but offer more power and less fading. I believe you can't judge which are better saints or formulas. Saints are stronger, Formulas are lighter, slightly more adjustable and easier in maintenance.
P.S. Saints are still lighter than Codes
To me Avids are just like Sram triggers, Truvativ cranks and bars: you have to like it. otherwise there are better choices out there (this tiny bit better, but still)
The weird thing is, that its common knowledge that the Avid brakes are fragile and need LOTS of maintenance and so...
In my case, I have been lucky, I used the Codes for a year, replaced pads 3 times, and thats it... No issues... The modulation on Avid brakes is awesome, thats why I love them...
The power on the codes was huge too... However, I did notice some brake fade, and also the other way around, just before a run, there were some times where I had to pump the brakes in order for them to function properly... Even bleeding them did not help...
This year, as the codes were heavier for DH Racing, I got the Elixir CR... Much lighter, the level feel and modulation is still great, (Avid-like) and the power, though not like the Codes, is enough for my riding...
And I have had no issues with them also, yet (They only have 3+ months on them).
However, I have to say they are not fragile at all... I have already smacked them straight onto trees twice, and nothing happened, just peel off some tree bark off them and thats it...
So, for me, Avid brakes have been real good to me... However, I can only give you feedback on that brand...
The Ones and saints will still be in my dreams! Thanks again!
CHEERS!
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