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chriskief chriskief
9/10/2020 1:25 PM
pohsoonteng wrote:

Anyone got any word on ...more

chriskief wrote:

Looks like you can get it ...more

pohsoonteng wrote:

Not a fan of the IS ...more

Hightower with a Cascade Mullet link could be an option (https://cascadecomponents.bike/products/hightower-v2-mullet-link) but that doesn't address the IS headset.

Not sure what year the Legend came out but I think VPP came from Outland back in the mid to late 90s.

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Primoz Primoz
9/10/2020 1:27 PM
Sonofbovril2 wrote:

No I’m just saying that ...more

So yeah, I understood you correctly. So again, why would the leverage ratio and flex stays be an issue?

Regarding more travel, if you use a thinner and longer section for the flex stays you can get a whole lot of travel. Or with the correct link arrangement, you can get very small rotations of the rear link (or the flex part). And so on. There is a lot of talk that flex stays only go up to X travel. Yet modern airliners have wings that go to near vertical at the tips through their flex (in the destructive test for the wings).

All you have to do is to make the structure deform to the point you need and to ensure the stresses in the deformation are low enough. How to do that and if that is practical from a manufacturing point of view and how it affects other parts of a design is a different story on the other hand.

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Sonofbovril2 Sonofbovril2
9/10/2020 1:34 PM
Primoz wrote:

Why would the leverage ...more

Sonofbovril2 wrote:

No I’m just saying that ...more

Primoz wrote:

So yeah, I understood you ...more

Agreed, basically it should theoretically be possible but yet no one seems to be doing it or able to do it for some reason?

Maybe some of the boutique Ti frames are doing it?

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Primoz Primoz
9/10/2020 1:39 PM

In an industry where most carbon bikes are designed from an industrial look point of view and the layup is determined by eye and then fixed if the tests fail in Asian factories, it's hard to see who would do the kind of development work to make it work. Specialized might have the capabilities and knowledge for it, but it's a matter of cost vs reward. You gain what, a few 10 grams on frame weight? It's most likely not worth it when you then put DH casing tyres on the bike...

But I'm still saying it's not impossible to make a flex stay bike with 150+ mm of travel. Impractical maybe but not impossible.

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hamncheez2003 hamncheez2003
9/10/2020 1:48 PM
Sonofbovril2 wrote:

No I’m just saying that ...more

Primoz wrote:

So yeah, I understood you ...more

Sonofbovril2 wrote:

Agreed, basically it ...more

Its actually not hard to do. It has more to do with the anti-rise arrangement of the link. You can make a link that puts minimal movement on the seatstays, or if you do your own carbon layup get quite a bit of flex. This bike has 160mm of rear travel with flex stays, and without the shock mounted this guy can flex it with his finger.


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Dickscruttock Dickscruttock
9/10/2020 2:09 PM
bermslapper69 wrote:

I heard some chatter about ...more

New Stumpjumper is going to be like the Enduro/Demo.

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kwapik kwapik
9/10/2020 2:14 PM
bermslapper69 wrote:

I heard some chatter about ...more

Dickscruttock wrote:

New Stumpjumper is going ...more

That was the speculation - but it isn't going to have the Demo/Enduro style lower linkage. As mentioned, similar to the current design.

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Sonofbovril2 Sonofbovril2
9/10/2020 2:14 PM

That’s cool, glad to see that it is already being done! I wonder if the flex affects the rebound in any way, similar to the way that living link does on spot bikes?

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Karabuka Karabuka
9/10/2020 2:47 PM
Primoz wrote:

In an industry where most ...more

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price is not nice but you get 5 year warranty...
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HH4L HH4L
9/10/2020 7:43 PM

Isn't that 2 new stumpjumpers (written ''new'')?! Exactly the same as before....

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/shop/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-bikes/stumpjumper/c/stumpjumper


Somebody told me they won't do 27.5'' anymore... Something to change the geo (4 different settings), carbon only and way cheaper! A model at like 5200 cad that was in the 6 grand before.

*EDIT: I was talking about the EVO*

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Primoz Primoz
9/10/2020 9:52 PM
Sonofbovril2 wrote:

That’s cool, glad to see ...more

Depending on the stiffness of the flexing part, yes and no. Meaning that it can affect it very little or quite a bit.

Look at the old stumpy, the one before the shock reinforcement through the triangle. Supposedly the rebound characteristics of the carbon version after a deep travel event weren't particularly good because the frame deformed and loaded up (kinda like a bow) and then released that energy basically undamped, giving fast rebound characteristics. Supposedly.

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baronKanon baronKanon
9/11/2020 2:11 AM

Intend has released lower price point series - the blackline
https://www.intend-blackline.com/about/

Really going to look a bit more at the Ebonite fork.
https://www.intend-blackline.com/products/intend-blackline-ebonite/

The "tricstuff" fork we saw in Rotorua last year definitely was Intend. Same for the European Bike Project bike.

Dayom!Photo

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Velocipedestrian Velocipedestrian
9/11/2020 2:09 PM
baronKanon wrote:

Intend has released lower ...more

Not much room for the lower bushing in there, I wonder if it'll be replaceable or new lowers time.

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Primoz Primoz
9/11/2020 2:54 PM

What makes you think that? The thicker top part of the lower tube is there to mount the bridge (I think it's screwed on) and to mount the seals, not for the bushings per-se. Bushings are relatively thin.

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NoahColorado NoahColorado
9/11/2020 3:08 PM
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MRP - VP of Business Dev.

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Whattheheel Whattheheel
9/11/2020 3:56 PM

I was waiting for you Noah!! Have you punched Simcik for me yet????

Where the white women at?

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Velocipedestrian Velocipedestrian
9/11/2020 11:39 PM
Primoz wrote:

What makes you think that? ...more

The tiny difference in diameter between the lower and stanchions mostly.
I'm sure Kapfinger has it thought out, just wondering about long term service.

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Verbl Kint Verbl Kint
9/14/2020 9:42 AM
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Saw this while window shopping for RD hangers. It's an interesting design, and, considering it's a catalog frame, has quite a few numbers on the geo chart that are quite progressive.

Shock size: 185x55 (trunnion - 160mm travel)
Max tire size: 29x2.5




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shreda shreda
9/14/2020 1:37 PM

Saw this new Onza Skinwall on IG earlier today. Looks like we'll have some interesting intermediate tire options to choose from this winter.


https://www.instagram.com/p/CFHz7McHfHR/

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https://onza-tires.com/landingpages/porcupine-rc/

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dylanemdasilva dylanemdasilva
9/14/2020 11:11 PM
Photo from a video posted by We Are One composites. Honestly could be nothing but the raw rocker link and lack of logos caught my eye being that there was some previous rumours of a frame on the works.
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Philip_Rossetti Philip_Rossetti
9/15/2020 2:09 PM

Sram AXS dh derailleur coming soon I think! Have a look at this Photo
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Primoz Primoz
9/15/2020 2:41 PM

Could it be just a cage transplant for a one-off build? It has Shimano brakes and Santa Cruz wheels on a Pivot frame... And FOX suspension. I hardly see it as preproduction stuff, this appears to be a balls to the wall build with no expense spared.

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brash brash
9/15/2020 2:49 PM

Possibly, doesn't look as compact as a short cage to me. Wouldn't really surprise me however. Back when I raced downhill the rear mech was probably the part I gave the least thought lol. It was there and it sort of worked.

Also, pivots will almost always be Fox/Shimano.

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tavaenga tavaenga
9/15/2020 3:25 PM

I recall that this AXS Blackbox prototype from a year ago was seen on Brandon Semenuk's Trek Ticket S. Photo

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Angu58 Angu58
9/15/2020 5:56 PM

Last year during Crankworx Whistler, Fanatyk bike co had a Specialized Demo with an AXS dh photo derailleur in the window for a few weeks. I don't remember the story behind it, but it was definitely shorter, and had a slightly different design to the 12 speed.

2020 Specialized Enduro w/ 38 + X2, XT 12s
2020 V10 29 CC

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Philip_Rossetti Philip_Rossetti
9/15/2020 11:39 PM

Doesn’t look like it’s on 27 inch wheels to me. Could they have turned into a 29er? Maybe a mullet for the smaller sizes?

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krabo83 krabo83
9/16/2020 12:58 AM
Philip_Rossetti wrote:

Sram AXS dh derailleur ...more

i thinks that‘s just a regular x01 axs with a short cage put on.

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Sean_Hornchek Sean_Hornchek
9/16/2020 8:21 AM
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nomad v5
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krabo83 krabo83
9/16/2020 12:20 PM
Sean_Hornchek wrote:
nomad v5

headtube looks even bigger/uglier than that on the new 5010 sad
interesting that it‘s kittet out in RS sitting at Fox smile

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Pedal4life Pedal4life
9/16/2020 12:51 PM

I just read about SRAM adding a Hydraullic clutch to there road bike derailluer and the mtb AXS frame to that derailluer making it perfect pairing to a DH cassette

Think I read about this on Cycling News maybe

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